Vitrue Facebook ROI Calculator = Social Media Snake Oil
Ever seen those apps that show you “how much your website is worth?” They’re sort of fun, except no one actually takes them seriously. What if you applied that same concept to a Facebook page? It would make just as little sense and be equally as silly.
You see where this is going. Remember that company Vitrue who attempted to create a valuation of a “fan on social media” at $3.60 each? They actually put together an app – named “The Evaluator” that calculates the “value” of your Facebook page.
At first I thought it was a joke, but they’re taking it rather seriously, adding the tagline: “measuring facebook return on investment.” Except – it’s total snake oil and makes me take their real product and team that much less serious. They continue to propagate flawed notions of how the social web provides value to brands.
The way the app calculates is as follows:
The Vitrue Social Page Evaluator (SPE) uses a calculation that factors in fan count, customer activity, brand activity, and a proprietary engagement multiplier.
Yes folks, it’s that simple to calculate the ROI of your Facebook fans. Take one part number of fans, throw in some consumer activity, brand activity and a “propriety engagement multiplier” and there you have it. Why not add a dash of fairy dust? In fact, they don’t even need to know anything else about your brand, your industry or any other details – just the public information from Facebook. It’s that easy.
The data represents a monetary valuation of a single Facebook page based on standard digital marketing metrics, impressions, and fan exposure. The score includes a configurable cost per thousand impressions (Earned Media Value) measurement that defaults to $5.
You heard it from Vitrue – it’s based on “standard digital marketing metrics” – so it must be true. And yet again just as they did previously, the measurement defaults to their random choosing of $5 without any real rationale.
In a blog post interview, Reggie Bradford, Vitrue CEO makes some statements about the app:
The Evaluator shows an actual media value, truly putting an ROI on social media efforts. It’s beneficial in many ways, especially showing people in your company that social media is important, valuable and that they should pay attention. We’ve had several marketers try out the Evaluator and thank us for finally providing a tool that actually shows an ROI, proving social media’s importance.
Sorry to say this, but if you are a marketer and you’re proving the value of social media through “The Evaluator” you’ve already killed your credibility with anyone at your company with a shred of digital marketing chops. If you have none, congrats, you’re officially a huckster.
We developed the Evaluator to help provide a marketer directional and quantifiable information. But increasingly marketers can and should derive their strategies based on solid data, which is what we do here at Vitrue.
You can see the irony here, and the fact their own CEOs talking point kills their brand’s credibility. He says in the same sentence that:
- Their tool helps provide quantifiable information for marketers
- At Vitrue, they base their strategies on solid data
Either their CEO is lying and knows their tool is merely linkbait to attract attention for their company, or they actually believe their tool is accurate. Either way to anyone that sees through what they’re doing, he comes off looking poorly.
In response to a question regarding if the “The Evaluator” is accurate at calculating value for small and large brands, Vitrue’s CEO responds:
Absolutely, every business — big or small — has an audience or customer base. And Facebook provides a tremendous platform to communicate to your audience, albeit if you do it the correct way. In fact, we’ve found that smaller brands with smaller fan bases can be just as valuable because of their engagement elements.
How often a brand posts or engages their audience depends on that brand. For example, fans of CNN expect more posts than say a local yogurt shop simply because the nature of CNN’s business — 24/7 news. But for that local yogurt shop, two posts a day is best and can be more valuable in terms of engaging and bringing that user to your store with timely placed coupons or special events.
Sure – that’s the beauty of creating something as absurd as a “calculate how much my website is worth” tool, you can just apply it blindly to anything you want. Large or small, industry x or y, the tool applies. Also you heard it first, Vitrue’s CEO is advising CNN to post frequently – and the local Yogurt Shop that two posts a day is best. You see the logic of this right? They want to apply normalizations across social media not just in valuation, but in frequency of content. In both cases it makes no sense.
One more quote:
First, I truly believe that Facebook is becoming the operating system of the Internet. But no, I don’t think they have gone too far. They definitely keep pushing their business and the social media space forward, as they should as leaders in this new communications world. This space evolves everyday and the leaders in our industry must keep looking forward. Facebook has smart folks at their helm and will continue to push to innovate, but I believe they’ll tread cautiously with their user base in mind.
Of course he would propagate the value of Facebook, it’s in his interest to. Their business growth is tied to the success of Facebook. You need to realize his talking points are written to inflate the value of Facebook and not grounded in reality, just his business objectives.
Hopefully I don’t need to go through all the reasons this idea is illogical again. Let’s just call this for what it is: an application as linkbait and pure entertainment. There is not a shred of value here, and Vitrue does a disservice to real social media marketers by propagating such nonsense.
I wouldn’t have posted this, except they are taking it seriously and think what they have done is even a little bit grounded in reality. It’s not, and I have a hard time believing any digital marketer worth their salt finds value in what they’re doing.
What are your thoughts?






David Akermanis replied | May 25, 2010 (8 comments)
The problem with tools like this is that they send the wrong message and set false expectations. If you’ve ever been a change agent in an organization that is just developing its digital chops you’ll know what I am talking about.
Executives that aren’t familiar with the digital space tend think about these things in a way that they are familiar or comfortable with: impressions, dollars, hits. If you’re pushing the SM agenda w/in your organization it’s in your best interest to get them to think about value:
- Are we helping people do their jobs better?
- Are we improving our processes, policies or services?
Tools like these overlook the true value of social media programs – pure snake oil.
Ivan Walsh replied | Jun 1, 2010 (1 comment)
I’d second that, David.
One way to get buy-in to identify one metric (and one metric only!) and then use Social Media to analyze this. For example?
Run Facebook only surveys and compare the results v offline surveys. Crunch the numbers and show the data to the Sales folks. If they see the value, then you can get a budget for the next project and so on…
Ed Dearborn replied | May 25, 2010 (1 comment)
I believe that your conclusions are accurate. How can we really know the ROI on a fan or social media except a per survey or businesses. How many people found you because of Facebook?
I think that Foursquare has a great idea that can be measured. Get 50 people to show up at one place and get a badge. This is something you can see. Either 50 people are at the sports bar or they are not. This is type of factual data that social media will have to find to ensure that they are a legitimate factor for ROI – that can be accurately measured.
Ed
http://www.mcintoshmarketing.com/blog
Josh Braaten replied | May 26, 2010 (32 comments)
A configurable CPM? What kind of strange social/display advertising math is that? These are the type of metrics that get companies to focus solely on fans/followers.
Jim Anderson replied | May 26, 2010 (2 comments)
Adam,
You say that the Vitrue product is ‘total snake oil’ and ‘linkbait’ with ‘not a shred of value’ that ‘makes no sense’ and is ‘nonsense’. You certainly get points for colorful writing, but unfortunately you miss the fact that the tool does actually make quite a bit of sense, and provides real value to marketers. Once you strip away the colorful language the facts do not support your outrage.
It seems that you have two core concerns:
1. Earned Media and a CPM-like calculation is overly simplistic and not an accurate representation of the value of social media to brands.
2. Vitrue’s business interests make anything we say automatically suspect.
On the first concern, we agree that social media offers far greater potential than simply ‘impressions’. But the fact is that most marketers need to start with what can be quantified most easily, and build from there. The principles behind our tool rely on very reasonable and arithmetically logical assumptions about impressions. You criticize the $5 CPM assumption, but if you spend some time with the product you can see that it’s actually configurable–*you* can decide what you think a thousand impressions are worth.
On the second concern, I could make the same argument about your business interests. Your position could be summarized as ‘Social media is a complex topic and you need expert advice from people with digital marketing chops.’ Does the fact that you have a business interest in that being true automatically invalidate what you say? We at Vitrue are quite open with our business interests (as are you on your blog), and people are free to evaluate what we say in that context. Questioning our motives seems to be a simple (and frankly, unfair) way to criticize without having to bother to stick to the facts.
I should make one final point: you say that our CEO’s ‘talking points are written to inflate the value of Facebook and are not grounded in reality.’ Facebook seems to be doing quite well in creating real value with nearly 500 million users. The thought that Vitrue and our Social Page Evaluator are somehow going to ‘inflate’ that value does not seem particularly plausible.
I will leave it at that; any interested readers can see earlier dialogue with Adam on his previous article at http://thefuturebuzz.com/2010/04/14/the-value-of-a-fan/ (my comment is the fourth one on that post). I also invite you to try out the Evaluator yourself at http://evaluator.vitrue.com. After using it, you can form your own opinions.
As always Adam, I appreciate the interest in what we have to say even if I disagree (strongly, in many cases) with your conclusions.
Regards,
Jim Anderson
Chief Operating Officer
Vitrue, Inc.
Joel replied | May 27, 2010 (1 comment)
Knowing the ROI of your facebook and other accounts can be a very important thing to some people. To regular Joe Schmo it may be a silly gimmick for his/her facebook but for some bloggers or businesses it could be an essential tool. There is another blog that talks of the importance of facebook and twitter as a tool for a business in today’s market. To these businesses this is a good development. http://wellonscommunications.com/pr-blog/2010/05/25/modern-day-public-relations-social-vs-traditional-media/