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	<title>Comments on: Social Media Certification Is Absurd</title>
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		<title>By: Devon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t totally agree with this statement the reason why certification/degrees is a way to get your feet in the door. I can tell you from my own experience as a developer for over 15 years I have been denied jobs because I did not have a degree in computer science or computer programming but I have had friends taking the masters degree ask me how to code applications.
Another example is when I decided the get certified as an IBM Certified Professional plenty of doors open up for me...  so do say that the certificate does not hold any real value I must disagree.
The certificate is not for other marketers just like degrees and computer certificates are not for techies it is for the non-techies it is for the non-marketers.
Now here is the only problem with the social media certification there is no standards...anyone can create there own certificate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t totally agree with this statement the reason why certification/degrees is a way to get your feet in the door. I can tell you from my own experience as a developer for over 15 years I have been denied jobs because I did not have a degree in computer science or computer programming but I have had friends taking the masters degree ask me how to code applications.</p>
<p>Another example is when I decided the get certified as an IBM Certified Professional plenty of doors open up for me&#8230;  so do say that the certificate does not hold any real value I must disagree.</p>
<p>The certificate is not for other marketers just like degrees and computer certificates are not for techies it is for the non-techies it is for the non-marketers.</p>
<p>Now here is the only problem with the social media certification there is no standards&#8230;anyone can create there own certificate.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
		<link>http://thefuturebuzz.com/2010/01/24/social-media-certification/#comment-29197</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 16:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Social Media Certification goes deeper than training on the initial social media platforms and into the strategies behind using the platforms for marketing. I&#039;ve participated in judging social media ad campaigns where the user was clueless as to the proper usage of social media for marketing. Basic marketing, ad design, PR and social media are all distinctly different areas of expertise and it takes an understanding of all backgrounds to integrate a successful social media strategy. Sure, I&#039;ve seen some bogus certification programs, but when backed by an accreditation, a social media certificate can boost your understanding and help users make a distinct connection amongst the areas of communication used in social media.
I also agree with Donna who made point to the trust issue with diplomas, certifications and other credentials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Social Media Certification goes deeper than training on the initial social media platforms and into the strategies behind using the platforms for marketing. I&#8217;ve participated in judging social media ad campaigns where the user was clueless as to the proper usage of social media for marketing. Basic marketing, ad design, PR and social media are all distinctly different areas of expertise and it takes an understanding of all backgrounds to integrate a successful social media strategy. Sure, I&#8217;ve seen some bogus certification programs, but when backed by an accreditation, a social media certificate can boost your understanding and help users make a distinct connection amongst the areas of communication used in social media.<br />
I also agree with Donna who made point to the trust issue with diplomas, certifications and other credentials.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna DMJConsulting</title>
		<link>http://thefuturebuzz.com/2010/01/24/social-media-certification/#comment-28608</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna DMJConsulting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 17:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to lean towards diplomas and other credentials because, as Doug stated, that is what the usual decision-makers trust, when combined with adequate experience.
However, who has &quot;adequate&quot; experience when the major social media sites have been widely used for only about 2 years or so.
Also, the strategy of developing a portfolio of case studies to prove your worth as a social media strategist is great for those who already have experience. However, for those who are new to social marketing, the certification courses helps to give them a foundation -- a place to start. Just like any credential, it has its place and purpose and shouldn&#039;t be construed for more than it really is.
My only beef with newer types of certifications, in many &quot;new&quot; industries, is that they leave their holders vulnerable because there is no official consensus, yet, by the main credentialing organizations.
This is definitely going to be an ongoing conversation, just as Doug pointed out, similar to what has happened in prior times with prior technological advances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to lean towards diplomas and other credentials because, as Doug stated, that is what the usual decision-makers trust, when combined with adequate experience. </p>
<p>However, who has &#8220;adequate&#8221; experience when the major social media sites have been widely used for only about 2 years or so.</p>
<p>Also, the strategy of developing a portfolio of case studies to prove your worth as a social media strategist is great for those who already have experience. However, for those who are new to social marketing, the certification courses helps to give them a foundation &#8212; a place to start. Just like any credential, it has its place and purpose and shouldn&#8217;t be construed for more than it really is.</p>
<p>My only beef with newer types of certifications, in many &#8220;new&#8221; industries, is that they leave their holders vulnerable because there is no official consensus, yet, by the main credentialing organizations.</p>
<p>This is definitely going to be an ongoing conversation, just as Doug pointed out, similar to what has happened in prior times with prior technological advances.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Richards</title>
		<link>http://thefuturebuzz.com/2010/01/24/social-media-certification/#comment-27851</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Full disclosure, my company offers social media certification. We are a 22 year old IT training company and our certification is state board of regents approved.)
There are no social media experts, I&#039;m not, you&#039;re not, your readers aren&#039;t and neither are the household names like Seth and Anne or even Guy. How can I say this? Simple.
The industry, you and I and everyone else that makes a living selling social media, refuses to agree what a social media expert is. Until we do, no one is.
I am a veteran of the self-trained web wars of the early 90s and we had this exact same discussion then. There was a camp that believed that no one would ever be a &#039;Certified Web Developer&#039; or a &#039;Certified Systems Administrator&#039; but somewhere along the way the business community - the people signing the checks - demanded that the industry regulate itself.
The same has already started to happen in the social media arena. My clients are business owners and decision makers. They distrust anyone who declares their own skill set. Whether its technology or a new employee they must have a level of comfort that the product or person they&#039;re buying meets a basic criteria. We hire by education and experience so a social media certification tells us a lot about the person, much more in fact than just a random string of numbers of followers or page views, when earned from a proven education provider.
By definition; certification requires the demonstration of a certain level of knowledge or ability. I think what you&#039;re really rallying against here isn&#039;t the act of certification but the complete absence of an educational foundation behind these so-called &#039;social media certifications&#039;. I won&#039;t deny that this frustrates the hell out of me as well but to disregard the necessity of social media certification may be short-sighted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Full disclosure, my company offers social media certification. We are a 22 year old IT training company and our certification is state board of regents approved.)</p>
<p>There are no social media experts, I&#8217;m not, you&#8217;re not, your readers aren&#8217;t and neither are the household names like Seth and Anne or even Guy. How can I say this? Simple.</p>
<p>The industry, you and I and everyone else that makes a living selling social media, refuses to agree what a social media expert is. Until we do, no one is. </p>
<p>I am a veteran of the self-trained web wars of the early 90s and we had this exact same discussion then. There was a camp that believed that no one would ever be a &#8216;Certified Web Developer&#8217; or a &#8216;Certified Systems Administrator&#8217; but somewhere along the way the business community &#8211; the people signing the checks &#8211; demanded that the industry regulate itself. </p>
<p>The same has already started to happen in the social media arena. My clients are business owners and decision makers. They distrust anyone who declares their own skill set. Whether its technology or a new employee they must have a level of comfort that the product or person they&#8217;re buying meets a basic criteria. We hire by education and experience so a social media certification tells us a lot about the person, much more in fact than just a random string of numbers of followers or page views, when earned from a proven education provider.</p>
<p>By definition; certification requires the demonstration of a certain level of knowledge or ability. I think what you&#8217;re really rallying against here isn&#8217;t the act of certification but the complete absence of an educational foundation behind these so-called &#8216;social media certifications&#8217;. I won&#8217;t deny that this frustrates the hell out of me as well but to disregard the necessity of social media certification may be short-sighted.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Ryan</title>
		<link>http://thefuturebuzz.com/2010/01/24/social-media-certification/#comment-27806</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 07:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Currently, I find myself in a state of career path transition.  I&#039;m trying to get into strategic development, PR, Marketing, etc, on the non-programming side of a tech company in Silicon Valley.  I have a few years of experience, namely, growing a tiny business into an adolecent sized business in Munich, yet I&#039;m struggling to get a &#039;yes&#039; after an interview.  A Social Media certificate has interested me, just as a tool to gain greater understanding of how it can and is being implimented in the work place/structure.  But for the price tags I&#039;m seeing, it just seems waaaaaaay too expensive, especially considering not one program is accreditted.  Stanford costs a lot of money, but that name carries WEIGHT.  No SM Cert. carries weight yet.  To date, the best tool for me thus far...is simply getting ACTIVE with Social Media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Currently, I find myself in a state of career path transition.  I&#8217;m trying to get into strategic development, PR, Marketing, etc, on the non-programming side of a tech company in Silicon Valley.  I have a few years of experience, namely, growing a tiny business into an adolecent sized business in Munich, yet I&#8217;m struggling to get a &#8216;yes&#8217; after an interview.  A Social Media certificate has interested me, just as a tool to gain greater understanding of how it can and is being implimented in the work place/structure.  But for the price tags I&#8217;m seeing, it just seems waaaaaaay too expensive, especially considering not one program is accreditted.  Stanford costs a lot of money, but that name carries WEIGHT.  No SM Cert. carries weight yet.  To date, the best tool for me thus far&#8230;is simply getting ACTIVE with Social Media.</p>
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