Don’t Let Social Media Comments Ruin Discussions On Your Blog

Social media comments are the new trackbacks.
Enabled by a slew of tools, there is an increasing trend of bloggers aggregating comments about their content from around the web right on their blog. In theory, this is a nice idea – bringing together bits of conversations in one spot – under the original content.
I get what bloggers are trying to do: use those comments as a type of social proofing. But social proofing should not interfere with user experience – by that I mean – get in the way of legitimate content on a page. And on a good blog, comments are most certainly content.
Aggregating 100′s of people ReTweeting the subject line of your message underneath the conversation adds nothing to your community, except destroying the actual conversation your community is trying to have on that page itself. By aggregating noise from around the social web on your blog (a place which can be a breath of fresh air from the never-ending river of real-time) you may be limiting the depth and impact of conversations.
Two of my favorite bloggers are doing this. Their content and their comments are great, but they are adding a whole bunch of noise that is just cluttering up an otherwise top-tier blog.
Samples of what not to do…
This is what the conversations look like on a sample post on PR Squared (he is using Chat Catcher to aggregate social comments). I grayed out the social media comments from around the web (made up of essentially just titles of the content and links back to the page you’re already viewing) so you can see just how far down in the comments you have to go to get to an actual comment:

Sure its aggregating them in order, but the comments are from disparate sources and really none of the ReTweets or “reading this article now” add any value for site visitors.
Let’s look at another example from Brian Solis’ blog (he is using JS-Kit to aggregate social comments)

Again, there’s not much of a point in drowning out the actual conversations on this page with people sharing the article with their personal networks and not really commenting.
Not trying to single out PR bloggers – I’ve seen this done in other niches, but I know Todd and Brian are nice guys and open to feedback.
Samples of good integration of social comments
1. Put pings/responses/shares below actual comments
Eric Friedman over at Marketing FM does a nice job of separating comments (he’s using Disqus to aggregate social comments). Notice the clear separation of actual comments on the site vs. social media trackbacks in this story on designing for social traction:
2. Separate via tabs
Here’s the comment section of a post from Smashing Magazine. I rather like this approach – segmenting the comments and the trackbacks/pings onto separate tabs altogether.

Would be neat if they added something like Chat Catcher to a third tab and labeled it social media comments or something similar.
3. Go old school – show only real comments that add value to readers
Daniel at Daily Blog tips has his comments setup in a clean, effective way. It’s old school: just site comments and then a subscribe/bookmark CTA along with related articles. This is a good approach in my opinion, as it cuts out all the noise. Instead of a bunch of disparate comments, Daniel is using the space right next to the comments – a place your eyes naturally go after finishing a story – to call people to action.

Closing thoughts
Don’t let your blog comments section become a cluttered mess of pings from around the social web that in reality are just a title and a short URL. It isn’t adding anything to your site and there is little value in it. In fact, personally I’m less likely to share pages looking like that as it gives the appearance the whole world has already seen it by now, so perhaps it isn’t worth sharing yet again.
For my own blogging, I don’t see a compelling reason to bring comments from around the web about content here on these pages. For people who want to take the time to comment on this blog and actually add content to a page, their words should be put up front and center, not drowned out in a mix of comments from other networks. Besides, every community is different, the reactions happening elsewhere about this content may actually be a disconnect to people visiting this site.
You may get the urge to try and integrate everything about a piece of content in one place, and perhaps it can work for you, but if you’re going to do it:
1. Keep it organized – not just chronologically, but segment them into logical sections if you’re going to do the aggregation thing. Otherwise it becomes an unreadable jumble.
2. Don’t alienate your current community by mixing their comments with shouts, shares or comments from around the web, especially if they add nothing to that conversation in particular.
3. Have some sort of strategy with why you are aggregating comments on your site, measure the effects/results and see if what you are adding is actually accomplishing some sort of objective. Is doing this actually encouraging more comments? Could that space be used for something better?
Screen real estate is extremely valuable, treat it as such. Don’t add more things to your blog or website because they are new or easy, think carefully about if it’s actually going to make the experience for visitors better and accomplish your goals.
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Brian Solis replied | Aug 30, 2009 (3 comments)
Thanks for this…this is actually representative of many of the things I’m evaluating as I move forward. Cheers!
Adam Singer replied | Aug 30, 2009 (597 comments)
Thanks for stopping by Brian. As a member and supporter of the PR 2.0 community, I’m glad to hear my feedback is in the mix of considerations :)
John Bredehoft replied | Aug 30, 2009 (8 comments)
Perhaps it’s because I’m familiar with it, but I do like the way that Disqus handles things – putting the real comments first, and then putting was Disqus calls “reactions” on the same page, but below the other stuff. However, any system that gives precedence to true interactions is nice.
Eric Friedman replied | Aug 30, 2009 (9 comments)
This is a great roundup of tips Adam, thank you. When are you going to switch to one of these systems :)
Adam Singer replied | Aug 30, 2009 (597 comments)
I gave integration of Disqus a shot, but unfortunately it did not play nicely with this blog’s theme. I’m planning on using it with the next build of this blog’s design – hopefully that happens before 2010.
With that said, I really have no issues with the basic WP blog commenting system.
Stuart Foster replied | Aug 30, 2009 (1 comment)
PR Squared is particularly egregious with this offense. Todd’s comment system is difficult to read and definitely confusing to comb through…so much so that I have stopped reading most of the comments there.
Mark Dykeman replied | Aug 30, 2009 (10 comments)
I have to admit that I’ve never looked in to how to do this. Not sure if it would add anything to what I’m doing at the blog. Social proof, as you mention, is the only reason that I can think of to show all of the RTs, etc. about your blog post.
Todd Defren replied | Aug 30, 2009 (1 comment)
I know, I know! Hoping to fix it in the next week or so. Promise! I hate it too.
Mario Sanchez Carrion replied | Aug 30, 2009 (23 comments)
Adam:
I had seen this trend develop in several blogs I read and I wasn’t sure if I should implement it on my blog. Your article is the first one I read on the subject and your recommendations make a lot of sense. Thanks for these useful tips.
Shari Weiss replied | Oct 30, 2009 (23 comments)
Mario — and Adam, of course — I agree. As a relatively new blogger I have always wondered about the value of all the pingbacks, etc. “No Value” is now my “considered” response.
Hadn’t read this particular post until end of October and the link from Adam’s PubCon speaking engagement — which would be so cool to attend.
Mario, if you read this comment, please email me and let me know if you have a blog.
AnthonyF. replied | Aug 30, 2009 (2 comments)
This is exactly the opposite of what we bloggers are thinking….Thanks for helping us put the brakes on this. A balanced view is a wise view.
Ian Hendry replied | Aug 31, 2009 (1 comment)
Interesting article. I don’t see the value of pings and reporting retweets myself, as it’s invariably a long list of identical posts pointing to the article I’m already reading. Much more useful is a counter just showing the number of tracksbacks, pings and retweets as “proof” of how useful people find it; I guess these are the new “likes”.
What would be good to see in the future this information stripped of the original content and only reporting back the additional comments added wherever they occur on the Social Web, although I am not sure the technology exists today to do this. Perhaps what we need is an evolution of URL shorteners where part of the service is link associated comments using that shortened URL back to the original article as comments below the article.
Ian Hendry
CEO, WeCanDo.BIZ
http://www.wecando.biz
DotCOMReport replied | Aug 31, 2009 (2 comments)
Great tips. I have to agree only comments about the actual blog need to be there. Who cares how many people retweeted your post but you.
Danny Brown replied | Aug 31, 2009 (19 comments)
Have to agree Adam. I turn away from blogs that have systems where social comments mix in the actual comments, as opposed to separately. I do think DISQUS is one of the few companies currently getting it right; now if there was only a way that could integrate actual social discussions into the comments and keep the standard RT’s, etc, separate – then we’d be talking!
Adam Sherk replied | Aug 31, 2009 (2 comments)
Well said Adam! This can easily get out of hand, especially with higher profile blogs. On newer or less known blogs I can see some value in pulling in any type of feedback/discussion that you can.
Eric Matas replied | Aug 31, 2009 (1 comment)
I’ve seen lively discussions at socialmedian or friendfeed when there is not a single comment on the blog. It’d be a shame not to make sure the blog readers knew where the discussion was happening. What if the threads could combine on both sites! What would that take, some sort of hashtag deal?
Tyler Hayes replied | Aug 31, 2009 (1 comment)
I wouldn’t say I ever just turn away from a blog because of some feature it has, but hey to each his own. Seems like people have all these “rules,” do they actually have those rules or are they just saying them because it makes them seem more steadfast? Weird.
Either way, great points Adam. It’s nice to see developers like Disqus acknowledging this. How many people do you think will change based on this information? I always wonder things like that: if someone hasn’t already figured this out, will they care when the information is presented to them? Depends on who they are, I suppose.
blog commenting replied | Aug 31, 2009 (1 comment)
Thanks for the article Adam.You shared almost all the valid points with the readers.Keep up the good work.
Shannon Whitley replied | Sep 1, 2009 (1 comment)
Thanks for the great post Adam. I completely agree with you. In fact, for Chat Catcher, I built a custom WordPress comment type. The custom type allows a blogger to separate Social Media comments from both blog comments and trackbacks. My post here talks more about separating different parts of the conversation on WordPress blogs: http://tinyurl.com/nepcyb
Chat Catcher doesn’t replace a blog’s comment section like many other solutions. As a blogger, I like this approach because it leaves the control in my hands. However, that means the display of the comments is dependent on the blog’s theme. Many themes are setup to display trackbacks and comments in the same stream. For blogs that receive a lot of comments, as you’ve pointed out, that’s not optimal.
The good news is that these things are easily fixed and your feedback will ensure that the fixes happen soon. I worked on Todd Defren’s theme when he first moved to WordPress. The trackbacks were split out at that time. Recently, he switched themes and the comments and trackbacks were joined again. He’s commented here that he’s reviewing his theme now. I’ll definitely give him a hand if he needs it and I’m sure things will be running smoothly again in no time.
sull replied | Sep 3, 2009 (1 comment)
agreed! i mentioned this too in a comment on this techcrunch blog post:
http://go.vocal.ly/commentchaos
Bill Bartmann replied | Sep 12, 2009 (1 comment)
Hey good stuff…keep up the good work! I read a lot of blogs on a daily basis and for the most part, people lack substance but, I just wanted to make a quick comment to say I’m glad I found your blog. Thanks,)
A definite great read…
- Bill Bartmann